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    Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

    Nobody Asked Us with Des & Kara

    About

    Once competitors and Olympic teammates, now friends and podcast partners, Des Linden and Kara Goucher share their hot takes about all things running with a little bit of life-stuff sprinkled in too. Come for the insights on running and stay for the inspiration from two legends in the sport. No filter needed. This podcast is presented by Brooks Running.

    Hosted By

    Des Linden and Kara Goucher

    3.45. The Coaching Episode

    3.45. The Coaching Episode

    December 16, 2025
    1h 19m

    In this episode, Des and Kara welcome a special guest - their editor and show-notes writer - Chris McClung. That's me! For those that don't know, I am also a running coach, and my business, Rogue Running, coaches athletes to help them achieve their running goals (both in-person and virtually).

    We just published a book called Running the Rogue Way where we teach you the how and why behind our coaching methods. Des and Kara were nice enough to have me on to talk about it. Links below if you want to check it out, but you get some teaser-tips in the conversation. The main message is that the book is for anyone who puts one foot in front of the other and wants to get faster - no certain speed or pace needed to start.

    But first(!)... we cover recent news and events including Kara and Des's experiences at Brooks XC Nationals, where runner-parents get some parent-coaching tips. We talk about Athing Mu's departure from Coach Kersee and how that certain news outlet reported it. And, we discuss the bankruptcy filing from Grand Slam Track with some insider intel on what it means for athletes and their recent partial payments.

    Finally, we finish with a Lagoon Sleep Top 5 to finish it off. Thanks so much to Des and Kara for inviting me on the show!

    To get your copy of Running the Rogue Way: 

    a. Hardcover: https://shop.ingramspark.com/b/084?params=duRtYl7Frjuhhph8KZ7fjriq7BusNLYAk4XXhBTGYGg

    b. Paperback: https://shop.ingramspark.com/b/084?params=6egsNzSKdLR1IJkO1yPcuO3BaV31zmBbKBsxmwkqejS

    Plus, special thanks to our bonus sponsor for the episode - Lagoon Sleep. Their holiday sale is officially LIVE, and it is the perfect time to give the gift of better sleep this season.

    Listeners can use code NOBODYASKEDUS for 15% off on their first pillow, OR take advantage of sitewide deals like $60 off two pillows and up to $160 off bundles.

    Head to LagoonSleep.com/NOBODYASKEDUS now, and take the 2-minute quiz to find the perfect match, or grab your favorite pillow before these deals are gone.

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