The TRACKSTAA Podcast

Recorded live at the HOKA pop-up in Shoreditch ahead of London 2026, this episode brings together Ellis — fresh off his debut marathon — and coach Andy for a wide-ranging conversation covering everything from personal journeys to the future of the marathon.

Ellis recaps his debut marathon experience and reflects on the PB Protocol project, sharing which athletes he believes are on the verge of something special. We preview the elite fields for London 2026, including a close look at the British contingent and whether anyone can threaten the British record. HOKA athletes Jess Warner-Judd and Louise Small are also in focus ahead of race day.

Andy shares his marathon racing philosophy, advice for running in the heat, and his honest assessment of just how far his group of HOKA athletes can go. We also discuss the Cielo X1 3.0 and what makes it stand out as a racing shoe.

The conversation takes a broader turn as we debate the greatest marathon performances in history and tackle one of the most compelling questions in the sport: when will the two-hour barrier be officially broken, and who will do it?

We round things off with a quick-fire segment that's guaranteed to raise a smile.

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