Hurdle with Emily Abbate

Olympic silver medalist, indoor world championship medalist, and 2,000-meter world record holder Jess Hull sits down IRL in Australia to talk through the mindset, patience, and grit behind her historic career. Jess opens up about leaving home at 18 to run for the University of Oregon, the evolution of being coached by her father, and how walking away hungry from the Tokyo Games laid the foundation for her monumental medal run in Paris. She also breaks down the freedom found in speed, the supportive yet competitive camaraderie defining the women’s 1,500m field, why delayed gratification is an athlete’s superpower, and the vital role of celebrating progress over perfection.

IN THIS EPISODE

• Chasing Dreams Across the Globe: The decision to leave Australia at age 18 to compete collegiate-level at the University of Oregon, adapting to a new country, and catching the travel bug.

• The Father-Daughter Coaching Dynamic: Evolving from high school coaching to working under Maurica Powell in college, to reuniting with her father in 2023 as a mature athlete on the exact same wavelength.

• Tokyo Heartbreak to Paris Glory: Why placing 11th in Tokyo sparked a crucial mindset shift, and what it felt like to capture the momentum and soak in a victory lap in Paris.

• Delayed Gratification & Internal Validation: Why athletes have to embrace the long, invisible grind, manage days when things don't click, and measure success by personal feeling rather than just external hardware.

• Finding Freedom in Speed: What running fast really feels like at altitude in St. Moritz, the role of rhythm over forcing effort, and the power of "spinning" instead of fighting the track.

• Sisterhood in the 1,500m: The unique mix of fierce rivalry and genuine warmth inside the call room, spearheaded by leaders like Faith Kipyegon.

• Keeping Perspective: Balancing professional identity with life off the track—new homes, growing families, and keeping eyes fixed on the long runway toward the 2032 Brisbane Games.

QUOTABLE MOMENTS

"When you're going after something... you get to do this. You're chasing it because your heart's got the desire for it... when you can embrace the process of something and you truly learn to love the journey along the way, that's what you're going to remember." 

"I had an Olympic dream growing up... but achieving it and the rush of capturing a wave in 2024 and the momentum into an Olympic Games—it's what every athlete wishes that they could have."

"You have medals, but you don't pull them out and look at them every day... it's a token for a lot of hard work, but if you're just searching for the medal, you're not even scratching the surface of what the journey is."

"The harder you try, the slower you run. If you kind of just go with the flow of it, you'll be surprised at how much more effortless fast feels."

"It was never with this whole desire of being the best from such a young age. It was celebrating just progress."

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